Recently, EP caught up with Peggy Moss, a nationally known expert on bullying and a tireless advocate for the prevention of hate violence. Peggy is also the author of Say Something, an award-winning children’s book that helps parents and educators start conversations with kids about actions they can take when they are being bullied, or are a witness to other kids being tormented at school.
"The injury is real when kids get teased—unchecked, it can be devastating."
Are name-calling and teasing just part of growing up, a rite of passage that all kids go through? "Many people out there think that adults are making too much of a fuss about it, that we should leave kids to their own devices. We know better now,” argues Peggy. “I have talked to 80-year-olds who remember the name of the person who tormented them in school, and the name of the child who stood up for them in first grade. This is pain that has lasted a lifetime. We have the information to stop bullying now, so why wouldn’t we?”
We sat down with Peggy and asked her what parents can do when they suspect their child is being bullied, and what they can do—together—to try to stop it.
How can you tell if your child is being bullied?
There’s a good chance your kid won’t walk up to you and say, “I’m getting teased and bullied at school, the kids are calling me names.” Instead, it’s going to manifest itself by your child saying, “I don’t want to go to school today.” If this seems to be happening a lot, consider the possibility that bullying might be the reason behind the sick days. Also, look for signs that kids are hurting themselves. Self-mutilation can be a sign. For boys, one classic symptom is that they are teased so much about being gay or being atypical that they’re terrified to go to the bathroom. Since there’s only one way in and one way out of a bathroom, it’s an ideal place to tease other kids. Boys who are bullied often won’t go all day, which can lead to lifelong intestinal issues. This could potentially be a sign—if your kid races home and goes to the bathroom every day after school. These are all possible signals that your child might be the target of teasing at school.
Let me be clear: As a parent, teacher or health care worker, add “Bullying” to your radar when you’re trying to figure out what’s going on with a child—add the possibility that your kid is getting tormented at school. The injury is real when kids get teased—unchecked, it can be devastating.
If my child comes to me and tells me he is being bullied, what is the best thing to do?
As a parent, I would say let your child talk about it. Don’t say, “What did you do that made them tease you?” That’s a pit parents can fall into. Don’t make the assumption that your kid has done something to bring on the teasing. Teasing isn’t always logical, and for your kid it doesn’t matter why—it just matters that it’s happening.
Listen in a non-judgmental way about your child and about the teaser. Let your kid do the talking. Don’t try to solve the problem. Ask, “What happened? How did that make you feel?” to draw your child out. And try to find out more about the kid who’s doing the teasing. Don’t say, “Oh my God, what a rotten kid,” because you’re just getting a part of the story. Your child doesn’t need you to go ballistic or take on the problem as your own. Your child needs to know that he’s being heard and that his feelings matter. Once you’ve got the whole story out, depending upon what’s happened, you can take your next step. For a parent to be explosive about the situation will cause a child to recoil. If I march to school and confront the bully on the playground, my child is not going to feel safe telling me anything about this again. I’m taking on his battle for him.
(Note from Peggy: A good resource for starting conversations with your kids: How to Talk So Kids Will Listen and Listen So Kids Will Talk. )
So, what can I do to stop the bullying?
The short answer is to let your kid come up with ideas. Ask him questions like, “What do you think you can say next time? What do you think might work?” Help your child see what the outcome might be of their words and actions; help them see that this is a problem they can solve on their own terms. For example, your kid might come up with the idea of saying to the bully, “Leave me alone, you jerk.” Instead of the parent saying, “That’s a bad idea,” respond with, “What do you think is going to happen if you do that?” Let them figure out that the bullying might escalate if they resort to name-calling.
Your child might then shrug and say, “I could walk away from the bully.” You can suggest that they walk away the first time and say what they need to say the next time. We have to be honest about how hard it is to face a tormentor. It’s also important to ask your child this question: “What’s going to make you feel better about this situation?” But make sure you’re not the one coming up with the solution. It’s important that your child feels like they’re solving the problem on his or her own terms. It’s a skill you can teach them that will last a lifetime.
What if my child won’t talk to me about being bullied?
As long as they feel like they have a safe place to go, that is what’s important. And if you feel your kid can’t talk to you, swallow hard and say, “OK, my child is not talking to me, but they’ve got to talk.” Put someone else in that room with them that they can talk to, whether it’s an aunt or uncle, teacher, counselor, coach or family friend. Unless that conversation can start, it’s very hard to get to the heart of the problem.
When should I approach my child’s teachers about it?
Go in pretty early, as soon as your child starts coming home and mentioning that they are being teased. If your kid is coming home more than once a week and saying, “These kids are teasing me and I don’t like to go to the bathroom,” go in after school when all the kids are gone. Call the teacher and set up an appointment. Teachers are like everyone else, if you mention something in passing, it won’t carry as much weight. If you make an appointment, they will listen.
A caution to parents: often when your kid is getting bullied, their teachers don’t know it. Kids are smart enough not to do it in front of the teacher. Bear in mind that when you go to a teacher you shouldn’t be carrying a hatchet in your back pocket. It may not be that the teacher is doing a bad job, it might mean it’s happening out of earshot. Don’t go into school assuming that you’ll be received with, “Oh yes, we’ve seen this happening.” Say things like, “My child is coming home and talking about this.” And then say, “This is how it’s impacting my child.” That’s what teachers need to know, because it may not be obvious to them. What you’re asking is for them to keep an eye out. Later, you can check in with email, and they can get back to you when you’re ready. If the bullying doesn’t stop, or it’s really bad bullying, you should go to the principal. A really great trick is to go in with a question: “I talked to Ms. Fabbiano a week ago, and my daughter is still coming home with this complaint. What should I do?” Put it into the lap of the principal and ask, “When can I expect to hear back from you about what you’ve done? What’s the next step?” Then you can tell your child that you will be getting an answer on Thursday about what steps will be taken. It’s also all right to ask educators to keep your conversations private, and then you can reassure your child about this as well.
What about when it’s gone beyond verbal abuse and there is a physical threat?
Once you’ve got a threat, you’ve got a crime—it’s called “Criminal Threatening.” It’s time to alert the police. You want to be in touch with the school long before you’ve got a threat of violence. When the threat of violence comes, you’re in police territory. That’s why there’s so much uproar about teasing and bullying, because once a child has been threatened with violence, it’s a really big wound. It’s hard to tell that child that they can feel safe at school ever again. Especially if the threat is anonymous. For the kid who gets an anonymous threat, going to school is terrifying minute-to-minute. There is no way a child can focus on her math test if she’s trying to figure out who wrote the note saying they were going to kill her. By the time you get to that point, you are in crisis mode.
Part of it is getting a sense from teachers about what’s really going on in that school. As a parent, it’s much more complicated. If you can’t figure out who is making the threat and the police can’t figure it out, you really have to decide whether the child is safe in the school and whether you want to keep her there.
The message to kids in your book Say Something is that kids have the power to stop bullying behavior at school themselves. Can you explain how this works?
When we talk to kids about bullies, remind them of this truth: Bullies are cowards. Most bullies won’t tease two kids together, and almost never will they pick on three kids at once. Even in a group, bullies single out one or two kids. In terms of plain old teasing, bullies like to put other kids down, to make someone else feel lousy so they can feel powerful. Most kids who are teasing and putting down other kids are looking for approval from peers. Teach your kids that there are a lot of ways to show that you don’t approve. If someone just speaks up and says, “Whoa,” or “Ew,” or “That’s not cool,” it can be effective. If another kid can walk up and say, “Hey, come over here, you want to go play?” to the person getting picked on, that’s huge. It often will defuse the whole situation. That bully is unlikely to follow, and he has just been told in public that what he's doing is not cool. Whether a teacher or kid breaks the assumption, now the kid getting picked on knows that not everyone agrees, and so does the bully. It doesn’t always have to take a lot of courage. Kids should know that they have the power to change their situation, especially when they work together.
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Peggy Moss has worked to eradicate bullying for more than a decade, first as a prosecutor with the Department of Attorney General in Maine, and later as an educator and curriculum developer with the Center for the Prevention of Hate Violence and the Cromwell Disabilities Center. Peggy has given seminars and bullying awareness workshops to healthcare providers, educators, students and parents in the United States and Canada. She is a graduate of Princeton University and the Washington College of Law at American University, where she was head of the Juvenile Justice Association. Her second book, Our Friendship Rules, co-authored with 14 year old Dee Dee Tardif, was released in May. For more information about Peggy, see www.SaySomethingNow.com.
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Thank you for the article. The advice for early intervention is right on target. Wording of questions and good listening skills are paramount. Thank you.
Comment By : Nutrition Nut
The type of bullying my child gets is more in the form of a group of 2 or 3 will talk down and tease my daughter who is also in a group. It's more of a "popularity" contest. My daughter is 12 and I think girls can use their words to be meaner then boys.
Comment By : Kristin- Michigan
how likely is it that bullies are being emotionally abused by their own parents? they need help too to be reconciled with their community of peers. i was bullied unmercifully, and yet i now know that bullies need love & discipline too in order to change.
i was fortunate to be able to maintain my inner core of emotional security and self-esteem. thus, i now have the ability to be steadfast, supportive and relentless in opposing abuse and double standards wherever i see them, including in our government.
Comment By : Aunty M
my daughter,who is now 10, has been bullied at school since day one. she had been to 3 schools and they're all the same. i was bullied all through my school years too and although i am a strong and confident woman now there is a core of me which has never recovered from the damage to my self esteem. it is devastating to me to see my daughter going through the same thing. bullying is a complex issue which requires approaches from all angles. i am trying to improve my daughters social skills, the school is tackling the bullying, and a school psychologist is giving her strategies.
Comment By : kezmet
Great article. I learned a lot. Ms. Wilkins is an excellent interviewer, she lets people tell their stories without getting in the way.
Comment By : hondofetch
This was a great article. My youngest son is the victim of a kid who has managed to infiltrate the group of friends my son use to be a part of but due to this other kid my son is now the one who has been pushed out. We have tried to guide him in selecting new friends (which is difficult) since this group of boys have been friends for several years, and avoid this kid. Got the other direction if he's coming your way etc.
I was recently at a school field trip and watched the kids play on the playground. My son would be in an area with his friends and the minute he would see this bully and group come over he would move to a different area...only to be followed by the bully and forced to move again. The continued for 30mins..I was heartbroken to sit and watch him do all that he could to avoid being picked on only for the kid to keep coming after him. Nothing happened while I was there, but when we returned to school that afternoon there was an altercation on the school playground when no one was watching. This has been going on for several months now and so we have tried to teach out son that if this kid continues to track him down and torment him at some point he is going to have to stand up for himself. He chose to do that this afternoon after the kid pushed him down and told him he was a big 'FATSO'. Although I don't advocate pushing back but my son had had enough and pushed back and threw back in the kids face that 'I wouldn't be talking - you don't have any room to talk' this then spurred on a comment from one of his friends (who they use to be inseparable but since this new kid has come on the scene he wants to impress him so he doesn't get the wrath of him)..'Hey don't talk to my friend that way'...he then stood up for himself and told his friend to either 'bring it on' or walk away..of which both boys turned and walked away. Again, I don't advocate fighting at all but at what point do you say enough is enough?
I went and spoke to the Mom of the friend who has always been friends with my son until just recently because of this bully and explained what happened. I told her the hardest thing was that her son is trying to be friends with both boys but that when the bully was picking on my son he didn't stand up to him, but when my son fought back - his friend stood up for the bully. That is when it isn't right...we need to teach our children that RIGHT IS RIGHT & WRONG IS WRONG...even if you are caught in a tough situation...we must always chose the RIGHT. The mom was very supportive and has since talked to her son and I am happy to say that my son and her son are realizing that friendship isn't something you take for granted and that it's not right to single out those just because you have a bully in the mix.
Comment By : Tinks Toy
My son is 10 and has mild cerebral palsy that causes him problems in walking and because of this is being bullied and teased in school. This has continued to the extent that he has asked more than once if he can change schools. I feel bad for him, having been bullied and teased myself in school when I was younger but I dont know what to do about it. I too, havent been able to recover from all of the effects and dont want this to continue and ruin my child from having a happy childhood and adolescence.
Comment By : trekkiemom
* Dear Trekkiemom: Thank you for your question, and I'm sorry to hear about what's happening with your son. It is remarkably difficult to see your child in pain, and, as a parent, I empathize with your concerns about long-term impact: on his self-esteem and his ability to see school and learning as a positive part of his life. I would say that if you are otherwise happy with the quality of education your son is getting at his current school, I would try very hard to rally the support of teachers and administrators there, solve the problem, and keep your son in place. (The school, in turn, may need to get more information/training on how to support you and your son, but that's a good investment, because your son is almost certainly not the only child at this school experiencing teasing). One of the early roles of these supportive educators will be to identify allies for your son - kids who can walk with him, sit with him, and help him get through his day. (Bullies are cowards, and simply walking with a buddy will go a long way to buffering what is said, and the impact on your son). While initially this may be a tacitly "assigned" role, more often than not, "buddies" assigned by teachers evolve into plain-old friends. There are many resources for schools on all of these issues, which they hopefully will have access to. I make this suggestion for two reasons. The first is that, as you describe it, your son is not "the problem." I worry that unconsciously, when we "remove" a child, we send the message that we are taking away the problem. I'd hate for him to get that message. I'd also be a little bit concerned about precedent. By contrast, if he manages to work through a solution, this situation could be a personal triumph for him, and something he can carry forward proudly. (To that end, if he can be involved in shaping the solution, that would be great). Secondly, I don't suggest moving your son (again, so long as he is "safe" at this school, or you can be assured that he will be made safe promptly) because teasing happens at every school. It may be better for him, from a self-esteem point of view, to face up to it at his current school rather than face the bitter reality that teasing happens everywhere - which he may (wrongly) interpret as a message that HE is the problem. I hope this is some help. I wish you the very best dealing with this difficult issue.
Comment By : Peggy Moss
I think when bullying gets to the point of injury that continuing on in the same school is dangerous. My daughter had 3 injuries in 4 months, including a concussion. If the principal can't get the situation under control, and the school department won't take any action then the only choice is to get out. The bullies should be made to make changes but when the adults in charge don't take charge then the children being bullied should go elsewhere. You wouldn't leave children in abusive homes and tell them to stick it out, would you?
Comment By : Jo
While the comments about ways to diffuse a situation are helpful, they depend on the action of other children to come to the child's rescue. Our experience is that this happens once in a while but not enough to discourage the bullying. In our situation it often seemed that the bully somehow managed to win the other children over, perhaps because they feared becoming victims themselves. Having the teacher assign a buddy sounds so nice but usually creates resentment at being stuck with the one being bullied. I am afraid there is no substitute for standing up to the bully and then having to take the consequences for your actions from the administration. Of course with the things that can happen that brings the fear that the bully will "up the stakes" by bringing a gun or knife. For some reason schools seem to be at as much of a loss as parents about what to do. I think one problem is the failure of boys especially to let teachers know what is going on. The cultural hatred for the tattler is so strong and distorted that it can lead to these mini-despots in the locker rooms and bathrooms having a great deal of power. I have never understood why coaches don't make it a practice to go through the locker rooms or busy themselves nearby so they can have some idea of what is going on in these areas. Just a shout through the door would be a help to some poor kid from time to time.
Comment By : ljgrey
Regarding some good points by ljgrey:
I am a school psychologist and have seen improvement when we in the school admit/validate that there REALLY IS such a thing as tattling, and that it's wrong. But then we define it: tattling is when you tell on someone just to get that person in trouble. This is in stark contrast to responsible reporting, which is required when behavior is dangerous or if it hasn't been fixed by calmly, firmly asserting what is right yourself. Did you ever confront a child who was a passive bystander to real bullying? When you ask them what they did about it, they all know they didn't do what they should have. When we spell out and rehearse what's expected of them, and set these guidelines as school policy, we not only encourage but demand responsible action to help correct bullying from the kids. THE BIG MISTAKE WE MAKE IS BY LETTING THE KIDS FEEL LIKE THIER ONLY OPTIONS ARE TO EITHER TOADY UP TO THE BULLY OR THROW A PUNCH THEMSELVES. By letting kids feel like these are their only two options, of course the bullies keep the power.
I'm not saying that some bullies haven't learned their lesson through a quick pop in the chops, but it's best delivered in the spirit of "no hard feelings." And it better not be at school. Isn't it interesting that we have plenty of kids who do martial arts, and none of them are bullies or targets? (Okay, some of the girls still play mind games...)
Comment By : imissjohnwayne
Hi I have a ten year old son he gets hit all the time on the bus and the school or our local police department will not do anything. I can not take him to school because of my work hours, neither can the daycare provider. What can I do to help him before he goes off the deep end?
Comment By : Danna
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